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	<title>Comments on: I think, therefore I</title>
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		<title>By: Breakerslion</title>
		<link>http://www.pixcapacitor.com/2005/08/i-think-therefore-i#comment-315</link>
		<dc:creator>Breakerslion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 15:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bah. Hairsplitters and egomaniacs. Bertrand Russell: "Do thoughts need a thinker?" If a tree falls in the forest, only there is no forest, then what the fuck is all this wood doing on the ground?"&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;"I think, therefore I am" is perhaps not the best way to state the premise that, if I am able to perform an action, I must first exist, but it is short and to the point. It is only redundant if you interpret it to mean, "I am because I think". Descartes chose thinking to be his action because it required no interaction with an unproven environment (other than what was going on in his own head one could argue - see wood on ground above). Sartre chose nausea because it was an experience that no one would choose to undergo.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My take on the matter is that the whole argument is interesting, but overly academic. Premise A: Everything I percieve to be a real part of my environment is real. Premise B: Everything is an illusion. If premise A, and I treat it as real, no problem. If premise B and I treat it as real, no problem. If premise B and I treat it as unreal, I starve, I die, I am institutionalized and force-fed, etc. This makes the safest course of action for continued existence to treat everything as being real. In other words, it makes no difference whether it is real or not; I can either go catatonic, or I can go for a nice bike ride.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bah. Hairsplitters and egomaniacs. Bertrand Russell: &#8220;Do thoughts need a thinker?&#8221; If a tree falls in the forest, only there is no forest, then what the fuck is all this wood doing on the ground?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I think, therefore I am&#8221; is perhaps not the best way to state the premise that, if I am able to perform an action, I must first exist, but it is short and to the point. It is only redundant if you interpret it to mean, &#8220;I am because I think&#8221;. Descartes chose thinking to be his action because it required no interaction with an unproven environment (other than what was going on in his own head one could argue - see wood on ground above). Sartre chose nausea because it was an experience that no one would choose to undergo.</p>
<p>My take on the matter is that the whole argument is interesting, but overly academic. Premise A: Everything I percieve to be a real part of my environment is real. Premise B: Everything is an illusion. If premise A, and I treat it as real, no problem. If premise B and I treat it as real, no problem. If premise B and I treat it as unreal, I starve, I die, I am institutionalized and force-fed, etc. This makes the safest course of action for continued existence to treat everything as being real. In other words, it makes no difference whether it is real or not; I can either go catatonic, or I can go for a nice bike ride.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
		<link>http://www.pixcapacitor.com/2005/08/i-think-therefore-i#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2005 03:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;"...René Descartes was a drunken fart/I drink therefore I am"&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My brother, who's starting college, says he's taking a philosophy course.  I sincerely hope he doesn't say stuff like this when he comes home.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;René Descartes was a drunken fart/I drink therefore I am&#8221;</p>
<p>My brother, who&#8217;s starting college, says he&#8217;s taking a philosophy course.  I sincerely hope he doesn&#8217;t say stuff like this when he comes home.</p>
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